Return-Path: Delivered-To: craig@dapaero.com Received: from gator4254.hostgator.com by gator4254.hostgator.com with LMTP id QMzNG1xK0WZMCw8AcizydQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 23:28:12 -0500 Return-path: Envelope-to: craig@dapaero.com Delivery-date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 23:28:12 -0500 Received: from mail-io1-f44.google.com ([209.85.166.44]:49242) by gator4254.hostgator.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sjtF5-004FiA-3C for craig@dapaero.com; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 23:28:12 -0500 Received: by mail-io1-f44.google.com with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-829e856a14eso67852539f.2 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:28:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1724992081; x=1725596881; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9pN/vd2A6e0U7E7+eSw4DJAdiZ8TW3LpIkIRJvlxvr4=; b=I0fLXEvH2KzqIHy6FjSr4ySMJeG5Yih8/EtcR3evdw4OLTXivr28oRvw+kXGEwv7ph aQrgtzQfqmQraUI7UorCQSl2InNYsK2AwCFmfjppLREi++d81po7cXtWsXvBNIHf9JxQ kaiM0e+dxNQyBXnM9GgbRnLvgr0hdMbvqJjWQ0XGOx0ZgaLoAC3NwPOe/qIzLspvuhJK izg3fdJpgS/356gnIYGeohXwH70fO6xrMl5NGecjtVFNlamc9ga3C7hCDVBywOTjgmD2 F/HrAeXkI7UzvzT2JeS13q/uYELUYn+XN4HHmdIc4yzvZRvfhFtj1E3+rab94XJ0aFnR /pZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxGjHfv+RVhxYPw9j8YmK6zzAbLii+22KkhJrA4o2GtnDsfMxIP sFi4NfxWR+KAPhNl9nrphyAKnSBR2fIzVBEAC4nVXCRCccqTJ/L0SJugD9YAIN2yGSgohRHej/D W2YIcU4rkqZLBfIq451fA2SWs47BTVw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEk+WPBUE+GuorDK22fcen77nzUXx2WOH1lodC/pw0nG/BL0p/2uswEEuQfOqpsoX9jdRLPt22WZHOgBAHLDtA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:60c7:b0:807:f0fb:11a2 with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-82a11094588mr634731039f.13.1724992080957; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:28:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <41D05D33-587D-412D-9EF1-4F5F5DCCFD61@dapaero.com> In-Reply-To: <41D05D33-587D-412D-9EF1-4F5F5DCCFD61@dapaero.com> From: Gryphon Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:27:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bravo update To: DAP AERO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000039db000620df0490" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 X-Spam-Score: -31 X-Spam-Bar: --- X-Spam-Flag: NO --00000000000039db000620df0490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roger that. I don't know yet that the GTR205 is able to receive GPS location from the SV-D1000's despite being able to receive data over RS232. There is a chance that NMEA is just not transmitted until there is a GPS lock. I can test that once the plane is out of the hangar. G On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 20:21 DAP AERO wrote: > I think tabling that for the time being is a good idea. The dynon can onl= y > set the frequencies of the primary radio so I will not use it to set the > gtr205. > As long as the 205 receives the gps data that is enough. As long as the > communication is good and you can see the messages on the 205, then the R= xD > to the 205 is working. > > On Aug 29, 2024, at 4:39=E2=80=AFPM, Gryphon > wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > I've confirmed that the SV-D1000 can/does "talk" to the GTR205x ( via a > RS232 diagnostic built in to the GTR ) on serial port #2. Meaning, I can > see messages in an expected format being received without error from the > SV-D1000. > > However, so far I cannot find any configuration setting that will allow > the SV-D1000 to provide output that the GTR recognizes as valid. The > closest GTR devices supported by Dynon are the GTR 200 and 225 for "TUNE > COM" functionally, but that configuration setting does not work. > > Perhaps Dynon will add support for the 205x in a future D1000 system > release. > > Rather than waste more time in trial-and-error I am going to clean up all > the wire harnesses and focus on completing the condition inspection. > > I also tried the two available NMEA out choices but they do not generate > any output from the SV-D1000, at least on the ground. Perhaps they will > when the aircraft is in motion / not inside the hangar. > > --Gryphon > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 13:40 Gryphon > wrote: > >> I see screen #2 does not use the wires for TX or RX on serial port 3 ( >> yellow/orange and yellow/violet wires from SV-D1000 ) so I'm going to tr= y >> those. >> >> I haven't looked yet if screen #1 has those same wires available ( it >> should but don't want to assume... ) >> >> It occurs to me that if you can do a Sunday morning pickup I can sign of= f >> Sept 1st instead of August 31st. >> >> --Gryphon >> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 13:04 Gryphon >> wrote: >> >>> (at least the Dynon wires are color coded!) >>> >>> At a minimum the Garmin RX pin will be wired to both TX pins/wires on a= n >>> available RS232 Dynon port. I will also run a wire in the same shielde= d >>> cable to the Garmin TX pin so it can be connected to something in the >>> future without further modification to that wire harness. That is a sm= all >>> deviation from what what approved in the LoA but no harm no foul. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 12:20 Gryphon >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In will try attaching the payment form in the CRM system, if it will >>>> allow me to do so for a "Closed" ticket. >>>> >>>> The headache with Dynon is not just configuration, it is the spaghetti >>>> of wires involved in connecting to one of the 4 ports on both of the >>>> screens. Configuration is also ambiguous, since Dynon expects both TX= and >>>> RX but the Garmin unit (per the wiring diagram) only accepts RX. Ther= e is >>>> a TX pin on the Garmin but it is intended for other Garmin interfaces = that >>>> "speak" one of only 2 TX/RX protocols (AFAICT). >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 11:25 DAP AERO wrote: >>>> >>>>> I haven=E2=80=99t heard squat from Tecnam USA and they don=E2=80=99t = answer their >>>>> phone. Maybe send an email in Italian to Tecnam Italy asking where t= he LOA >>>>> is? >>>>> >>>>> I will send the W&B in a separate email. >>>>> Is there more to the serial interface than the TxD and RxD? If it is = a >>>>> configuration problem, there is a dynon rep A&P I can take it to for >>>>> configuration. >>>>> >>>>> I will plan on pickup Saturday. >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Craig >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 29, 2024, at 10:55=E2=80=AFAM, Gryphon < >>>>> gryphon@westcoastsportaircraft.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>> I'm on track to have the plane ready for pickup on Saturday afternoon= , >>>>> please plan accordingly. >>>>> >>>>> Please provide the LoA once you have it (or at least the Tecnam >>>>> assigned LoA identifier for me to reference in the airframe log entry= ). >>>>> >>>>> Please forward the current W&B report. >>>>> >>>>> Integrating the GTR205x with the Dynon displays is a bit of a >>>>> headache. Hopefully I will get that worked through today. >>>>> >>>>> The COM2 fuse was not a 10amp as labeled on the panel. I swapped the >>>>> COM1 fuse for testing purposes and will swap back once I source a 10a= mp. >>>>> >>>>> It's been long days and late nights but I'm confident I'll have all >>>>> systems operational by the end of this week and paperwork finalized o= n >>>>> Saturday. >>>>> >>>>> --Gryphon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024, 20:03 DAP AERO wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Any issues show up on the Bravo? >>>>>> >>>>>> --00000000000039db000620df0490 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger that.=C2=A0 I don't know yet that the GTR2= 05 is able to receive GPS location from the SV-D1000's despite being ab= le to receive data over RS232.

There is a chance that NMEA is just not transmitted until there is a= GPS lock.=C2=A0 I can test that once the plane is out of the hangar.=C2=A0=

G

On Thu, Aug= 29, 2024, 20:21 DAP AERO <craig@da= paero.com> wrote:
I thin= k tabling that for the time being is a good idea. The dynon can only set th= e frequencies of the primary radio so I will not use it to set the gtr205.= =C2=A0
As long as the 205 receives the gps data that = is enough.=C2=A0 As long as the communication is good and you can see the m= essages on the 205, then the RxD to the 205 is working.

On Aug 29, 2024, at 4:39=E2=80=AFPM, Gryph= on <gryphon@westcoastsportaircraft.com> wrote:
=EF=BB= =BF
I've confirmed that the SV-D1000 can/does &qu= ot;talk" to the GTR205x ( via a RS232 diagnostic built in to the GTR )= on serial port #2.=C2=A0 Meaning, I can see messages in an expected format= being received without error from the SV-D1000.
However, so far I cannot find any configuration se= tting that will allow the SV-D1000 to provide output that the GTR recognize= s as valid.=C2=A0 The closest GTR devices supported by Dynon are the GTR 20= 0 and 225 for "TUNE COM" functionally, but that configuration set= ting does not work.

Perh= aps Dynon will add support for the 205x in a future D1000 system release.

Rather than waste more ti= me in trial-and-error I am going to clean up all the wire harnesses and foc= us on completing the condition inspection.=C2=A0
I also tried the two available NMEA out choices bu= t they do not generate any output from the SV-D1000, at least on the ground= .=C2=A0 Perhaps they will when the aircraft is in motion / not inside the h= angar.

--Gryphon


On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 13:40 Gryphon <gryphon@westcoastsportaircraft.com> wrote:
I see screen #= 2 does not use the wires for TX or RX on serial port 3 ( yellow/orange and = yellow/violet wires from SV-D1000 ) so I'm going to try those.

I haven't looked yet if screen #1= has those same wires available ( it should but don't want to assume...= )

It occurs to me that = if you can do a Sunday morning pickup I can sign off Sept 1st instead of Au= gust 31st.

--Gryphon

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 13:04 Gryphon <grypho= n@westcoastsportaircraft.com> wrote:
(at least the Dynon wire= s are color coded!)

At a= minimum the Garmin RX pin will be wired to both TX pins/wires on an availa= ble RS232 Dynon port.=C2=A0 I will also run a wire in the same shielded cab= le to the Garmin TX pin so it can be connected to something in the future w= ithout further modification to that wire harness.=C2=A0 That is a small dev= iation from what what approved in the LoA but no harm no foul.=C2=A0=C2=A0<= /div>


On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 12:20 Gryphon <<= a href=3D"mailto:gryphon@westcoastsportaircraft.com" rel=3D"noreferrer nore= ferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gryphon@westcoastsportaircraft.com= > wrote:
In will try attaching the payment form in the CRM system, if = it will allow me to do so for a "Closed" ticket.=C2=A0=C2=A0

The headache with Dynon is not jus= t configuration, it is the spaghetti of wires involved in connecting to one= of the 4 ports on both of the screens.=C2=A0 Configuration is also ambiguo= us, since Dynon expects both TX and RX but the Garmin unit (per the wiring = diagram) only accepts RX.=C2=A0 There is a TX pin on the Garmin but it is i= ntended for other Garmin interfaces that "speak" one of only 2 TX= /RX protocols (AFAICT).

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024, 11:25 DAP AERO <craig@dapaero.com> wrote:
I haven=E2=80=99t heard squat from Tecnam USA a= nd they don=E2=80=99t answer their phone.=C2=A0 Maybe send an email in Ital= ian to Tecnam Italy asking where the LOA is?

I will send the W&B in a separate email.
Is there more to the serial interface than the TxD and RxD? If i= t is a configuration problem, there is a dynon rep A&P I can take it to= for configuration.

I will= plan on pickup Saturday.
Thanks
Craig

On Aug 29, 2024= , at 10:55=E2=80=AFAM, Gryphon <gryphon@westcoastsportaircraft.com> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI'm on track to have the plane ready for pickup on Satu= rday afternoon, please plan accordingly.=C2=A0

<= div dir=3D"auto">Please provide the LoA once you have it (or at least the T= ecnam assigned LoA identifier for me to reference in the airframe log entry= ).

Please forward the cu= rrent W&B report.=C2=A0

Integrating the GTR205x with the Dynon displays is a bit of a headache.= =C2=A0 Hopefully I will get that worked through today.=C2=A0

The COM2 fuse was not a 10amp as labe= led on the panel.=C2=A0 I swapped the COM1 fuse for testing purposes and wi= ll swap back once I source a 10amp.

It's been long days and late nights but I'm confident I= 'll have all systems operational by=C2=A0the end of this week and paper= work finalized on Saturday.=C2=A0

--Gryphon=C2=A0



On Wed, Aug 28, 2024, 20:03 DAP AERO <craig@dapaero.com> wrote:
<= /div>
Any issues show up on the Bravo?

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