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connected in series, but tapped on center bar, they charge about  1.75 
amps each on a battery discharged to 3 volts, then gradually reduces to 
1.5 amps on 3.5 volt reduces to half amp around 4 volts.

if i put in 12 modules per pack, i could have four modules per center 
tap bus, and 21 chargers. but the .1 amps per module is not going to 
charge much.

at 4.1 volts, they put out .4 amps and red light is still on.

at 4.16 volts they put out  .25 amps

at 4.18 the light turns green and they drop to .1 amps

will leave on for a few days, but not doing much at .1 amps

when charging a bank of four modules, doubt the .1 amps will do any 
damage if left on for weeks. .



On 2/24/23 11:26 am, DAP AERO wrote:
> 2 amps is not bad rate. Just watch the shutoff voltage to make sure 
> they don’t overcharge.  Can put in s 2 amp diode to drop 0.5 volts if 
> needed
>
> Four inches probably. Portland completely caught off guard. Had to get 
> Phillip from airport snd bridge was a mess. Trucks stopped for traffic 
> and then couldn’t get moving again so blocking lanes until they put on 
> their chains.
> Spent at least an hour just on the bridge since trucks thought they 
> deserved to be in all four lanes. ODOT snd WADOT had made no effort to 
> clear or drive bridge snd cold air coming down the gorge turned 
> everything to ice.
>
>> On Feb 24, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Curtis Andrews <andrewscc@nctv.com> wrote:
>>
>> ﻿
>>
>> got two of these;  a bit small, but  seem to work.
>>
>> how much snow you folks get?
>>
>>
>>   LIVISN DC 4.2V 2A Power Adapter Li-ion Battery Charger with LED
>>   Indicator 5.5x2.5 2.1mm Interface Suitable for Suitable for 3.7V
>>   4.2V Lithium Battery
>>
>> Brand: Generic 
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Generic/b/ref=bl_dp_s_web_23908739011?ie=UTF8&node=23908739011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=Generic>
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>> Brand 	Generic
>> Connectivity Technology 	Interface
>> Connector Type 	Barrel Connector
>> Special Feature 	Short Circuit Protection
>> Input Voltage 	220 Volts
>> Wattage 	24 watts
>> Number of Items 	1
>> Output Voltage 	4.2 Volts
>> Power Source 	Corded Electric
>> Current Rating 	2 Amps
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>>   About this item
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>>   * Input voltage: AC 110V / 220V (AC90-264V suitable for anywhere in
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>> -- 
>> Thank You
>>
>> Curtis Andrews
>> 1336 E Oak St
>> Othello WA. 99344
>> andrewscc@aol.com
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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">connected in series,
        but tapped on center bar, they charge about  1.75 amps each on a
        battery discharged to 3 volts, then gradually reduces to 1.5
        amps on 3.5 volt reduces to half amp around 4 volts.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">if i put in 12 modules
        per pack, i could have four modules per center tap bus, and 21
        chargers. but the .1 amps per module is not going to charge
        much.  <br>
      </font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">at 4.1 volts, they put
        out .4 amps and red light is still on.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">at 4.16 volts they put
        out  .25 amps</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">at 4.18 the light
        turns green and they drop to .1 amps</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">will leave on for a
        few days, but not doing much at .1 amps</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">when charging a bank
        of four modules, doubt the .1 amps will do any damage if left on
        for weeks. . <br>
      </font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br>
      </font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">  </font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/23 11:26 am, DAP AERO wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">2 amps is not bad rate. Just watch the shutoff
        voltage to make sure they don’t overcharge.  Can put in s 2 amp
        diode to drop 0.5 volts if needed</div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="ltr">Four inches probably. Portland completely caught
        off guard. Had to get Phillip from airport snd bridge was a
        mess. Trucks stopped for traffic and then couldn’t get moving
        again so blocking lanes until they put on their chains. </div>
      <div dir="ltr">Spent at least an hour just on the bridge since
        trucks thought they deserved to be in all four lanes. ODOT snd
        WADOT had made no effort to clear or drive bridge snd cold air
        coming down the gorge turned everything to ice. </div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <blockquote type="cite">On Feb 24, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Curtis
          Andrews <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:andrewscc@nctv.com">&lt;andrewscc@nctv.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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          <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">got two of
              these;  a bit small, but  seem to work.  <br>
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          <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">how much snow
              you folks get?  <br>
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                  overflow-wrap: break-word; margin: 0px;"><span
                    class="a-list-item" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                    color: rgb(15, 17, 17);">Input voltage: AC 110V /
                    220V (AC90-264V suitable for anywhere in the world
                    voltage level).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></li>
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                  overflow-wrap: break-word; margin: 0px;"><span
                    class="a-list-item" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                    color: rgb(15, 17, 17);">Output: DC 4.2V 2A
                    (Suitable for Lithium Battery)<span
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                  overflow-wrap: break-word; margin: 0px;"><span
                    class="a-list-item" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                    color: rgb(15, 17, 17);">Output Wire length: 1m /
                    3.28ft.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></li>
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                  overflow-wrap: break-word; margin: 0px;"><span
                    class="a-list-item" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                    color: rgb(15, 17, 17);">Output interface: 5.5 *
                    2.5mm / 2.1mm (With built-in leaf spring, Compatible
                    with 5.5x2.5 / 2.1mm ).Before buying, be sure to
                    confirm that the interface size of this product
                    matches with yours. Wrong size will not wo</span></li>
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Thank You

Curtis Andrews
1336 E Oak St 
Othello WA. 99344
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:andrewscc@aol.com" moz-do-not-send="true">andrewscc@aol.com</a>
509 346 8108</pre>
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Thank You

Curtis Andrews
1336 E Oak St 
Othello WA. 99344
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:andrewscc@aol.com">andrewscc@aol.com</a>
509 346 8108</pre>
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